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iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By McLaranium (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
Part I
Xavier had a relationship, just like a friends with Helena, they were in love (yes still they are friends) but some differences and attitudes make the relationship like a friends not good, like rivals. .. but there are love , yes some love, she wants him and he wants her too, they are just a steps to become into a couple (even when there are "fights" between them").
Part II
He decided go away... after some months of relationship Xavier decides go apart... away from Helena , Xavier knows that Helena's attitude like "indifference and arroggance" is just because she is shy, and she is falling in love too but she hides his feelings being rude, arrogant, frivolous. he fades away without announce anything... just 2 encounteers in a year -- just a halo but some strange, like a trying by they both to stay there, and a feeling like "why are we apart?? we shouldn't".
Part III
5 years after, Xavier is in love, yes, has a nice, good and so pretty relationship with his girlfriend Malena, Malena loves him so much, he loves her so much everything is a dream made true but one day...
Part IV
Xavier and Helena by coincidence- like a destiny-joke encounter in the subway. The moment is only Helena and Xavier, they talk about carreers, jobs, family... but the pauses, the moment, the details, the eyes, the look... he knows WHO AND WHAT she is, she knows WHO AND WHAT he is ... .. and they both know it, they FEEL it...
Part V
Xavier loves to Malena, is in love, he wants her, really he is so happy, and Malena is so happy and so in love too. But Xavier had a chain-- a chain named ELENA ... or is just his imagination?


...my Life is a Movie, my Feeling is the Soundtrack
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McLaranium's Info | 2008-09-28 03:35:52
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
Umm, what should I talk about or comment on?

If I were the guy there, I wouldn't look back. History is history, no matter how much you shout or cry, it can't turn back. It will just be like that, like now. If we have to linger on the past that much, we will never be able to move on and live a life that is yours.




Vincent, the Angelworld Webmaster
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Night Angel's Info | 2008-09-28 10:21:31
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By ikomi (Celestial Admin) . 3 months ago
It's probably not very nice of the man to go away without saying anything. Neither person the first relationship seems to know where they stand with each other, let alone decide if whatever relationship they had should continue. If the man is happy enough now, then maybe he should move on, as Night Angel suggested; then again, if the man were ready to move on, he could make some effort to clear up the previous relationship with both women.

Anyhow, to answer the question -- no, it likely wasn't his imagination. It'd make a funny excuse though.
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ikomi's Info | 2008-09-28 18:43:03
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By McLaranium (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
one friend told me iF you are in a new relationship - everything could be new, like "new life" , and about the past - the other girl you know her, you know what can expect maybe... looking forward is better, iF the man is enough serious or smart or strong hahah he could say a nice goodbye or "see you later" with the knowledge of his present, agreeing his present is good and nice and happy . yes I agree with you iko, vincent



...my Life is a Movie, my Feeling is the Soundtrack
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McLaranium's Info | 2008-09-28 18:49:29
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By wreckoning (Heavenly Archangel) . 3 months ago
"thats why Im always in bad terms with my ex's", that could be a possible solution.

I feel like movie scenes could give a gd answer, just so ppl could FEEL it




never be too straight forward when voicing ur opinions, it might offend others.
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wreckoning's Info | 2008-09-29 01:19:01
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
Quoting from ikomi

It's probably not very nice of the man to go away without saying anything. Neither person the first relationship seems to know where they stand with each other, let alone decide if whatever relationship they had should continue. If the man is happy enough now, then maybe he should move on, as Night Angel suggested; then again, if the man were ready to move on, he could make some effort to clear up the previous relationship with both women.


Indeed, have to agree. In this world too many men just left with a bunch of unknown and questions, and thus creating a lot of unclear situation in which some people do silly things in order to know the answer. Somehow, only one full-stop is needed, which is so easy, but men just don't do it.

I however understand why. Some men do not say full-stop to end a relationship clearly because they want to save a chance for future use. If anything goes wrong, they can always return, assuming women will wait for them like in those romantic movies.

And sadly, such a behavior makes these men a lady. They disgrace the whole male kingdom.


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-09-29 01:21:31
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By McLaranium (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
in all my life- maybe only one EX is still my friend - "friend" ??? no, I don't think so, just talk a little on messenger and never met again . . no. I have never been Friend with an EX, Good solution to me end and crash in bad terms like Wreko says


...my Life is a Movie, my Feeling is the Soundtrack
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McLaranium's Info | 2008-09-29 02:08:22
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By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
Indeed, why is it so hard to be friends again? Why?

What are the girls' views on this?


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-09-29 06:25:37
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By McLaranium (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
Ego ?


...my Life is a Movie, my Feeling is the Soundtrack
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McLaranium's Info | 2008-10-01 02:25:41
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By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
I guess so, probably ego thing. Saving face.


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-10-01 13:18:44
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By crays (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
Well some just can't accept it. I don't know why. I agree with "the past is the past". If it has passed leave it aside, you are to look forward but not backward.


I stole the that oinks helloly.
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crays's Info | 2008-09-29 08:46:17
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By summerdazed (Angelic Member) . 3 months ago
I'm not friends with my ex, i know that if i do, it will be very hard to really end a feeling. However much you tell yourself you hate your ex or that you're ok with being just friends, emotions will be disturbed again when your ex has a new relationship or vice versa. And when your ex is in deep shit you heart will probably go out to him/her and you'll feel obliged to help, and that may jeopardise your new relationship. You know, stuff like jealousy and all that.

That being said, i dont think one can totally let go and forget the past. The past makes you 'you', and it will haunt you from time to time. But the important thing is, like you all said, not to dwell in it. Or better, you can look back, accept the past and learn from it. Also, i think it's healthy to tell your new bf/gf about your past, as much as you deem appropriate, because although it may not matter, it is still better to let the opposite party know some things about your past.

it's just what i think
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summerdazed's Info | 2008-09-29 10:20:28
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
Agree with the first paragraph, but not the second one

I don't think there is a need to know about the past unless asked. And it needs skills to talk about your past so that it doesn't hurt both parties, if not helping anything. We never know what your lover feels when you talk about something in the past especially including sensitive information like your past relationships. If one has to learn from the past, it is you, not your lover. You have your own to learn while he has his own.

I didn't talk much about my past. It doesn't matter at all I believe for my current relationship.


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-09-29 13:45:29
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By wreckoning (Heavenly Archangel) . 3 months ago
stay single and ......... around

well the problem is some men are horrible at communicating with the opposite sex, that's why its bad to leave all the questions unanswered or misunderstandings that could cause big problems, "end up screaming at each other in public" etc.

Yea so men, speak up, lol I'm learning that shit alright

Peace


never be too straight forward when voicing ur opinions, it might offend others.
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wreckoning's Info | 2008-09-29 22:01:18
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By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
Guess on this matter I am a little bit different. I like to state what I feel, and what I think, and so people probably consider me as too determined or even cold-blooded sometimes, haha...

Still I don't think I am wrong. Like every stage of life, there should be a beginning and end. That's it. If things are all messed up, how can you go on and be happy?


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-09-30 00:48:29
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By wreckoning (Heavenly Archangel) . 3 months ago
yea u straight up like a person who is taking a shot at the bar.

Example, "u hungry?"

"Yea I'm hungry, now lets eat!"



never be too straight forward when voicing ur opinions, it might offend others.
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wreckoning's Info | 2008-09-30 21:15:58
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By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
Yield to temptation!


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-10-01 00:47:44
Re: iF you are in love today - is the past love erased at all?
By wreckoning (Heavenly Archangel) . 3 months ago
Point is TOUGH LOVE, gotta say what u gotta say, i guess as u grow older u start to not give a shit


never be too straight forward when voicing ur opinions, it might offend others.
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wreckoning's Info | 2008-10-02 18:15:46
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By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
Indeed indeed life is short, all I can say!


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-10-03 01:31:55
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By crays (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
Woah, that's quite different from me xP. I'd usually doesn't speak out loud what i want to say and usually hint them.

I do kinda agree with summerdazed's second paragraph. Seriously, one cannot TOTALLY forgot about their past. You can hide it but if someone says something that you find resemble your past, you will start thinking. Although they might or might not meant you.


I stole the that oinks helloly.
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crays's Info | 2008-09-30 03:10:32
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By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
I think I may be wrong. I agree to talk about the past honestly, while I don't think one should take the first step to reveal his own past even if his lover doesn't ask for it.

I mean, why bother?


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-09-30 15:11:52
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By McLaranium (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
I don't know if they mean something like "the past is our story and we can't left behind totally our past - because is our story" it means maybe approach the experience and learn from that past.

About relationship in méxico theres a popular sentence: "lo que no fue en tu año no fue en tu daño" - the things happened in other years out of your years weren't in your damage -


...my Life is a Movie, my Feeling is the Soundtrack
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McLaranium's Info | 2008-10-01 02:30:00
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By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
Remember they are two things. It is your past, and that's for sure. You can't get away with it.

At the same time, no need to disclose if not asked for it. That's my logic.


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-10-01 13:21:19
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By crays (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
Well like u said above, why bother. But when there is an incident, like suddenly the reveal of your past or stuff, you lover will question you "Why didn't you told me you done this this this before?", "you don't trust me?" You see =/.


I stole the that oinks helloly.
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crays's Info | 2008-10-03 15:12:24
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By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
If your girl is like this, it sounds like she has a problem too. Love is about understand, and if she ever complains about this, I believe something is wrong.

My current relationship is pretty mature in a way that we have some understanding on these things, and we won't argue about this. Everyone has their own past and there is no need to reveal every bit in order to continue anything.

If love is like that, does that mean you have to reveal everything in order to start going out with him or her? No way!


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-10-03 15:43:20
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By crays (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
yeah i get it, well i don't have a girl yet. But these condition is quite common. They can be having a very stable relationship, but what if the thing is like you used to be a drug dealer, but you did not tell her?


I stole the that oinks helloly.
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crays's Info | 2008-10-04 10:42:25
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By McLaranium (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
Quoting from Night Angel

I didn't talk much about my past. It doesn't matter at all I believe for my current relationship.



does not matter -- yes, only rest the experience and some maturity to our current relationship, life, living .. etc


...my Life is a Movie, my Feeling is the Soundtrack
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McLaranium's Info | 2008-10-01 02:32:10
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By McLaranium (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
Arround year 44 B.C. a roman sentence, I'm not sure iF is involved on it Octavio (named Augusto) or it was about Marco Antonio - Octavio relationship, but that sentence was quoted on the Roma DVD series when Octavio turns the Emperor:

"Look back to the past and remember you are a human"



...my Life is a Movie, my Feeling is the Soundtrack
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McLaranium's Info | 2008-10-01 15:20:01
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By Night Angel (Iridescent Webmaster) . 3 months ago
Is that for the time when you are about to die?


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Night Angel's Info | 2008-10-01 15:27:26
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By McLaranium (Senior Archangel) . 3 months ago
mmm maybe applicable for some situations I suddenly imagine if an adult try to discupline a child .. example just .


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McLaranium's Info | 2008-10-01 23:10:32
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By summerdazed (Angelic Member) . 3 months ago
anyway, each to his own i guess, our opinions are influenced by many factors which may even include our different cultures and upbringings.

I think crays agrees with me because we're both Malaysians and Malaysians are generally quieter due to our strict upbringing. It would be rude for us to just go straight out with what we think sometimes, and many years of 'oppression' as we grow up lead us to keep to ourselves more.

I agree with Vincent that you don't need to keep talking your past cuz your current partner might think you're not over your ex yet. But by 'past' i mean like what crays said, like if you're a repented junkie i think the current partner should know about it, unless it wouldn't be fair. Then your partner will take more care about the related issues, although he/she might also be more easier suspicious of you

And like crays said it would change things when the past is exposed. I mean, if i found out tmr that my bf used to be a drug dealer i would definitely more careful, i might even break the relationship. In a way it is about trusting your partner enough to let them know, and see whether they can accept that.

But anyhow, I guess in the end we just do whatever we do to protect ourselves from getting hurt, although it might mean hurting others. Humans are selfish, after all. Or maybe, in a good way, you can say that life is about survival of the fittest. That sounds like an excuse to be selfish though.

Anyway, i'm way out of topic, hehe.
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summerdazed's Info | 2008-10-12 13:01:47
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By Muix (Angelic Member) . 3 months ago
Feelings are there.
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Muix's Info | 2008-10-13 17:49:03